it really amazes me when jws act like we are hurting them!.
many of us have found that if we stop associating with them for valid reasons, they act all upset and hurt that we would be "so cruel as to limit our association or cut them off".
i know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave jehovah" , and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and our awake friends shun them first, the parents cry and bemoan the situation and say how "cruel it is to deprive them of their company".
STUCK - "I know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave Jehovah."
I was was once in the home of the Secretary (elder then, not now)) when he warned his 14 year old son that if he ever "left the truth" he would be put out of the house!
Guess what? Both of the ex-elder's children (now early 20's) have since "left the truth," got worldly partners, and are still at home. Wonderful to see that parental love overcame the Borg mentality.
i have come to the conclusion that there is no way for me to ever leave.
although i have some friends at work, my whole social structure are witnesses.
even if i move congregations, my parents have contacts everywhere who will tell them if i’m not active.
Addison, just read your heartfelt dilemma, but It's not all as bad as it appears to be.
You have 2 choices by which you can keep your family - either carry on faking it as an active JW, (intolerable!) or, start to fake it as a JW who is having serious spiritual/psychological problems.
Miss field service and meetings at your own pace and become inactive as soon as you can. The latter option - if you perform well - may get you the sympathy vote from family members and friends.
this may be a plot point in a novel i'm working on.
will a judicial committee take testimony from a df'd or da person?
i could see them wanting to get dirt from any possible source, on the other hand i can picture somebody saying "he's df'd everything he says will be a lie.
@ Anders Andersen - "During the JC there is not much fact finding to do other than quizzing the accused to see if they are repentant."
I used to believe this "fact", and actually told non-JW's that only unrepentant sinners got D/F'd. Repentance is a secondary issue in the minds of the kangaroo court.
We now know that the wolves judge if a person's repentance is acceptable - based on whether the individual is "favoured" by the leader/s in the pack.
just spoke with my mother about the summit for north and south korea, her face turned a ghastly pale and she refused to talk to me about it afterwards.
i know exactly what is on her mind, and i'm not sure if i can say or do anything to assuage her fears about this being a fulfillment of prophecy.
any suggestions on what i could perhaps tell her to try and steer her from her line of thinking?
Or you could just ask your mother why she is being so "presumptuous" by trying to prove Christ's statement false: (Matthew 24:44) “....the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it.”
Thief in the night, no man knows the day or the hour, etc., etc.
just spoke with my mother about the summit for north and south korea, her face turned a ghastly pale and she refused to talk to me about it afterwards.
i know exactly what is on her mind, and i'm not sure if i can say or do anything to assuage her fears about this being a fulfillment of prophecy.
any suggestions on what i could perhaps tell her to try and steer her from her line of thinking?
Do a Google search and compile a list of all the "peace talks" concluded by enemy nations during your mother's lifetime, and then ask her why the Korean peace talks are any different. That might cure her JW speculation.
problem with this week's video on counsel.
why did they emphasize the counsel and not the fact that those who were watching movie should have followed christ counsel at mathew 5 go to your brother instead they ratted on the guy to an elder and let him do dirty work.wow just totally ignore jesus words..
JW mentality is conditioned to respond just like the scumbags of Nazi Germany, communist USSR, and the McCarthy witch-hunts - rat on anyone you can, and boost yourself in the eyes of the hierarchy as being "loyal" to the cause.
wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .
why?
lol.
Good find.
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
Hey WHAM, if you don't mind, I'll PM you my 14 favourite scriptural/literature questions & answers in the next few minutes - contradictions which I'll gladly present to any (unfamiliar) J.W.'s who couldn't rat on me for pointing out such 'evil slave' dogma.
so let me introduce myself first: i've lurked here for years because i'm working on a long-term research project concerning jehovah's witnesses and i've collected data from this site (seriously, you guys are awesome, i've learned so much from this forum i never would have learned otherwise).
i've also collected data at multiple kingdom halls and read scholarly works on jehovah's witnesses and non-scholarly works as well (e.g., crisis of conscience).
so i have a pretty good sense of jehovah's witnesses even though i was not raised in this faith nor did i ever join up.
Welcome to the forum, John. The advice you've received and used has been very good. Keep us updated on any further developments.
google: vintage freemason compilation collinsworth family.. several pages into the program has a familiar face..
Is this real or has it been photoshopped? It looks like something CTR used in his business model.
